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Google's YouTube Blunder
by Bill Wise, Monday, October 16, 2006, 11:00 AM

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YouTube is a 65-employee startup that hasn't yet turned a profit, that's in an unproven industry, and that faces enormous legal problems. Which is why last week's Google purchase of the video-sharing sitefor $1.6 billion--was a huge mistake.

Let's go through the facts, and you'll see what I mean.

Problem #1: YouTube is young, the market is young. YouTube hasn't made a profit yet. It certainly gets a lot of traffic, and it's got advertising; but it's still deeply enmeshed within the "let's just get more eyeballs and wait" stage of the business. What will happen next is still unclear.

YouTube might hit on the magic formula of turning eyeballs into money--as Google has done for itself; and as Google is looking to help YouTube do, by supporting it with advertising. But there are definitely Google ad ventures that don't work out (think Google print); and it's entirely possible that, even with all of Google's help, YouTube still might not live up to its $1.6B expectations.

After all, a lot can happen in online video over the next few years. Microsoft is beginning its own video sharing site, Soapbox. Meanwhile, MySpace still ranks higher than YouTube--at the time of this writing Alexa ranks MySpace as #6 on the web; and YouTube as #10and MySpace offers video. It's even possible that the traditional television networks, which are starting to expand online (ABC.com now delivers complete episodes of "Desperate Housewives" and "Lost"), will also enter ithis newest medium of user-generated video. Think about it: reality TV and televised talent shows aren't all that different from the 15-seconds-of-fame world that YouTube has created on the Internet.

And keep in mind that great empires certainly do fall. MySpace has clearly trumped Friendster in the social networking space, and Google itself pulled ahead of Yahoo, its elder rival. Both Google and Yahoo joined forces to crush Lycos.

And there's always the possibility of something entirely new jumping out of nowhere that changes everything, rendering YouTube passé. YouTube didn't even exist two years ago; who knows what the next two years will bring.

Problem #2: YouTube has 65 Employees. YouTube is still a small business. Google has about 8,000 employees; MySpace, which NewsCorp bought for $580 million, has a workforce of 300. So paying $1.6B for YouTube is placing an awful lot of faith in only 65 people.

Of course, YouTube will need to hire more people if they're to fulfill their new parent company's huge expectations. That shouldn't be hard to do--a job at YouTube probably looks pretty good around now--and Google is certainly waiting in the wings to help out (or to take over) if organizational issues become a problem. But whatever step the YouTube organization takes next, it will certainly need to become a different animal than it has been until now. YouTube has achieved fairytale success as a grassroots-driven startup; but it remains to be seen how it will fare as a billion-dollar player and subsidiary of a Fortune 500 firm.

There are bound to be serious changes in how business gets done, and there might even be changes in the way the youth market reacts to a cool indie site that's gone corporate. Only time will tell whether those changes will be positive or negative.

Problem #3: The legal issues. At the time of this writing, a YouTube search for Billboard-topping artist Justin Timberlake yields 3,084 results. A YouTube search for Kelis, number 50 on the Billboard Pop 100, returns 789 results. There's clearly copyright infringement going on, and YouTube makes it possible. That could mean real legal headaches for both YouTube and Google.

Thus far, Google and YouTube have kept the lawsuits at bay by creating ad-revenue sharing deals with Warner Music Group, CBS, and Sony BMG. Google will also offer technologies that help YouTube prevent illegal filesharing. But either of those acts of appeasement could go sour, especially if the entertainment world feels that Google's anti-piracy technology doesn't go far enough. If the entertainment world's relationship with the two online kings does fizzle, the breakup might not be so friendly.

There's no doubt that YouTube's a valuable company. And Google is certainly on to something in pricing out the competition in a valuable market--which most analysts think is Google's strategy in overpaying for YouTube. But the high price is a huge gamble, and there's a lot of reasons to say that it won't pay off. If the relationship doesn't pan out, it could very well go down as the greatest blunder in Google history.

28 comments on "Google's YouTube Blunder"

  1. Kristy Mitchell from Ithaca College
    commented on: October 18, 2006 at 11:23 PM
    I called it! Buying YouTube was just not that wise of a decision. Why didn't Yahoo buy YouTube? Why wasn't it more coveted in the online media world? Because the whole site is largely un-original material, half of which infringes on copyrights! YouTube is like a lawsuit waiting to happen. You can read more of my thoughts about this in my blog, http://ickristy.blogspot.com/

  2. William Jolitz from ExecProducer/CoolClip Network
    commented on: October 18, 2006 at 6:17 PM
    You discount what drives the high acquisition price here. Having met Sequoia's Botha and Google's Schmidt, neither are fools.

    For a balenced view, look at: http://www.siliconvalleywatcher.com/mt/archives/2006/10/thoughts_on_goo.php Or my own: http://www.venturebeat.com/contributors/2006/09/21/the-google-test/

    I can understand how negative this might affect your business, as it may change the economics of content pricing. But as to deal price, very little of the $1.6B has anything to do with either prior piracy or monetization.

    Monetization is the key here you should talk about, as nobody monetizes bandwidth quite as good as Google. To come up with an affirmative for the valuation, take your media pricing model and put in YouTube's content acquisition cost and rate, then take Google's scaling and project out five years. Now, with that number doesn't Google look smart?

  3. Michael Huskey from Mass Appeal Marketing
    commented on: October 18, 2006 at 9:50 AM
    You may be wrong...your data does not account for the feeling that what is small and dominant as a name we all recognize with increased exposure will be the leader for years to come...all other attempts to take their position by others have failed. Why? Because it is YOUTUBE! This being said I may be wrong...afterall Google is the company that is supporting China to suppress human rights by helping them locate, detain and do God knows what to discenting individuals who support democratic ideals...so if a company can make this kind of a blunder YOUTUBE may be one of a series of choices that will break them.

    One thing I can tell you is all businesses that are not aligned with "Golden Rule" principles fail. What we do to another we do to ourselves. Wake up Google! Wake up WORLD!

  4. Charles Frith from BBDO
    commented on: October 18, 2006 at 2:40 AM
    What a silly story. I'll knock something up if you want to be contrarian. I'm serious.

  5. Stanley Park from Netsplorer.com
    commented on: October 17, 2006 at 6:34 PM
    By announcing their purchase, Google management brought a 2% increase to the 304.36M shares outstanding. By doing so, the company value went up by $2.55 billion. This raises a simple question: Who would turn down a $1.65 billion tax credit, acquire an A+ company for free in the process, and also profit by $1 billion or so in one day? Mr. Wise is surely technically savvy and makes some valid points, but the truth of the matter in business is the bottom line. Stanley Park

  6. Bill Wise from Did-it Search Marketing
    commented on: October 17, 2006 at 3:28 PM
    In the immortal words of Groucho Marx... "Whatever it is, I'm against it!" (Main line in his first musical number in Horse Feathers, 1932).

    As the author of the article, I recognize this piece is contrarian and I have received many passionate responses-- nearly all of the messages I received to my email were positive. The above comments in this blog range from "spot on" to "you're out of your league, rookie"... all of which I very much appreciate. The art of discussion, differing opinions, taking a POV are very much lost these days and I love to see it.

    To add light to the Marx quote above... YouTube, MySpace, Facebook, [insert the next 50] were all created from 3 things: 1. Easy to use 2. Amazingly viral 3. Anti-establishment

    The minute a "GooTube" user types in an artist's name and gets redirected from the video that is currently there to the copyrighted video, or when the user needs to sit through a 10 second commerical before seeing the video, they will lose both #2 and #3. It is cool to be different right now. The minute facebook added some trasparency to their groups and added more advertising, their were petitions around campuses to ban them.

    If I were running Google, would I have done this acquisition? As a public company, hell yeah... I HAVE TO. Boutique acquisitions are for future product lines, revenue streams, R&D. Big acquisitions that aggregate billions of impressions, and only cost me less than 1% of my market cap is a bet I would probably make... rational? I think not... To go through the math of what earnings need to be ar the 60x EBITDA multiple to justify the purchase price... okay, see where you are going and I did the same math myself ( I was a finance guy before becoming an online marketing executive). However, GOOG is trading at 60x only because of their growth rate, not because that is what they are worth today. In a rational market, once that revenue growth rate slows, valuation should come down to realistic levels.

    Anyway, its been fun. Thanks for all the comments-- both positive and negative-- all very much appreciated.

    Bill Wise www.bill-wise.com

  7. John Steele from Conceptions, LLC
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 8:13 PM
    1 last post- taken directly off a YouTube comment on a posted video: ..................................................................................................... 'After listening to this tune..I ran to the record shop and bought "kind of blue". Been 4 weeks, can't get the tune out of my head. If my life had a soundtrack, I'd wish Miles had composed it...and John played it. ' .....................................................................................................

    That simple search and find created a SALE of an audio CD. Everyone from all levels will benefit from Googles YouTube. We are not even scratching the surface yet with YouTube.

    Now if you want to argue about "RingTones" - that is a subject I would have made a fool of myself- saying there would never be a market for them. I can't for the life of me understand why people actually pay for all these obnoxious ring tones.

  8. Steve Wiideman from Steve Wiideman
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 7:24 PM
    I get where you're going with the overspending perspective, but the financial impact goes two ways when you take into consideration their own video product: Google Video. Google may have considered the traffic to YouTube.com as a potential 10-year loss of traffic to Google Video.

    Google sure knew what they were doing when they took over the PPC market from Yahoo! I'm sure they didn't play the Ouija Board when they made the decision to purchase YouTube.com. The CEO had to have seen some math in the finances before blessing this recent move. Wouldn't you agree?

    Steve Wiideman http://www.top10seotips.com/

  9. John Steele from Conceptions, LLC
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 6:59 PM
    Content vs information: The people who haven't a clue are viewing this deal as Google getting in the "content business". WRONG. I and many other 40+yo dudes do not use YouTube for strinctly entertainment purposes....it is the only place we can actually instantly [SEARCH & FIND] and immediately play almost anything, including an old obscure black & white video of Miles Davis...something I never knew even existed. You are completely lost if you can not see how multiple extremely successful business models can be built upon this. The search and find aspect itself is invaluable. Hmmm VideoMail, family weddings, partys, the list goes on and on...independent productions...new Game teasers, new movie release previews, on and on. Sure content is the underlying draw- but the scope of Searchability and Instant Access is golden.

  10. Mark Stevens from MSCO
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 6:43 PM
    Agree with you wholeheartedly and have a suggestion for Google: spend five minutes with Warren Buffet and let him tell you why he wouldn't touch YouTube with a ten foot poll. Reading between the lines, he'd say it doesn't make money and it likely won't. Need more reason than that? Mark Stevens CEO http://www.msco.com/blog

  11. Douglas Karr from Coders4hire
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 6:35 PM
    I could not disagree more: 1. The early bird gets the worm. This is not an investment in immediate revenue, this is an investment in market share and future revenue based on that market share. 2. Low overhead! 65 Employees is great - the ability to move fast and not expend a lot on salaries. 3. YouTube is already wheeling and dealing with CBS and a number of other media outlets. Those who don't wish to do business online will die. If they wish to sue on their way out the door, it will lead to an earlier death.

    Doug http://www.douglaskarr.com

  12. John Steele from Conceptions, LLC
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 6:33 PM
    Sorry Bill- I think you bombed on this one. I read all the replys and everything you are completely wrong about has been addressed. The bottom line is- when you see the media giants folding and signing up, as they have with YouTube, you are left with a REAL freight train, not a 2000-2001 byte rush. Maybe you can go back in your archives and give us a retro posting on "HotOrNot". I bet you laughed at that $100million 2 day 2 employee "mistake".

  13. linlin Wills from Glam Media Inc.
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 3:57 PM
    It is all about valuating a brand!

    There has been a media frenzy with all sneazer?s envy, doubt, fear, and all range of skepticism about Google?s acquisition of YouTube. The commentaries so far have tackled every angle of the deal except the most important one, the brand value of YouTube. YouTube had created a phenomenal brand apparently spending zero official marketing budget, perhaps in this case, the company?s burn rate is their marketing spending. There are gazillions of video upload utility companies out there, who can barely keep up their dough. YouTube have became the choice of consumers, whoever want to release a video, they do it on YouTube. It is winner takes all market. Other players simply go ash-tray. I think Google-YouTube marriage is totally cool, it even got its cultural fit!

  14. johannes larcher from cineal
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 2:43 PM
    Key question re legal risk - what indemnification provisions did YouTube shareholders agree to?

  15. P. W. from Tribe Network, Inc.
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 1:36 PM
    Every argument Bill has made here was made about MySpace. This is about audience size and reach, not about the # of employees (whose idea was it to make this an issue any way?) and not about whether they're currently monetizing the platform (which they are quite well since they started to try this 3-4 months ago).

    As for the legal issues, while there's plenty to worry about, the large copyright holders, inc. Universal Music Group which threatened to sue YouTube, are all entering into agreements w/them. Google's legal team is also top notch and the fact that they went ahead w/this would suggest that they spent a lot more time reviewing this issue than the CEO of an SEM company. Just a thought here ;-)

  16. Nicholas Wright from Wireless World Forum
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 1:27 PM
    It was refreshing to read an article that completely rubbished the Google YouTube deal, whcih others have at most expressed caution about. Unfortunately, the points made are not strong reasons for making this analysis. I can't see the logic in criticising Google for taking a highly calculated risk. This is a basic business principle for progressive companies. Of course, YouTube is not making money but Google took its own gamble at going alone once and managed to get where it is today based on determination and confidence in their business ideas. Google and YouTube's ethos are very similar (surely part of the reason the deal was carried out - they just got along) and I can't see much problem with the merger on those grounds. The argument that something else could easily come along and annihilate YouTube is reasonable yet foolish at the same time. What business is so secure that they can say they are invincible? Is that grounds to rubbish it?

    I don't understand the argument about the size of the two companies. Is that really a problem? This a small highly-committed, highly motivated group of people and what would they have to gain by fruitless expansion. I think that it's unnecessarily negative (and possibly deliberately controversial) to suggest that as changes happen all the time, acquisitions are "blunders". How would anything happen if everyone had this mindset?

    The only point that is certainly true is that legal issues the two are likely to face. On the other hand, Google is used to these legal wranglings and fully expects them I'm sure. It's unlikely they were unaware that they would face massive copyright issues and I guarantee they will either get media players on board or simply remove content. Google need a landmark case to settle the issues surrounding copyrighting (an increasingly outdated idea)once and for all and why not face it over what could be the biggest opportunity for internet development since...well, Google.

    If it doesn't pan out, I doubt you could call it a blunder (it won't sink Google) merely a noble failure. How else do you learn wihtout doing this? Caution in a changing landscape doesn't help anyone.

  17. Troy Gilbert from Electronic Arts
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 1:26 PM
    Very poor content in this "article." The suggestions of potential failure and what-ifs are entirely unsubstantiated.

    - Yahoo! paid $5b for Broadcast.com, and Broadcast.com had no where near the market penetration, traffic numbers or general "cultural awareness" of YouTube. - Media companies are waking up (see last weeks statements from ABC regarding online content "piracy"). They realize that folks swapping The Daily Show clips (and similar) on YouTube is a measure of the property's success and is absolutely worth whatever imagined losses there may be in the value of advertising/promotion it brings. - Number of employees? Who cares? YouTube is populated with *user* generated content, why do they need a certain number of employees? What would they actually be contributing to the bottom-line? - Legal issues are completely moot. The DMCA protects YouTube/Google from any suits as long as they act responsibly to take down any offending material (which they have a track record of doing). With Google in the picture, there will be no frivolous lawsuits since Google can afford the bill, which will keep the content owners honest (listening, RIAA?). At the same time, Google has singificant repuation and assets to protect, so content owners know that legitimate infringements will be handled quickly. - Do you honestly think MS will have a lot of success with SoapBox? You mean, like they had success taking on MySpace with MSN Spaces (or Blogger or any other social software)? Most of the web audience simply isn't attracted to Microsoft properties. - Don't put too much faith in Alexa rankings when it comes to predicting trends. Alexa rankings are based on numbers gathered by folks who voluntarily participate. I don't know anyone personally who does, and I know there's a huge body of web movers and shakers who do not. Alexa is not a good predictor as it is not used by the leading edge of consumers. - If you think "reality TV and televised talent shows aren't all that different from the 15-seconds-of-fame world that YouTube has created" then you don't deserve to be commenting on this topic. That statement alone shows that you simply DO NOT GET IT!

    And as you said, "what will happen next is still unclear." Yes, unclear to us, unclear to you, but do you really think that it is unclear to Google? How pompous to think that just because you (and other online pundits) can't see the opportunity that Google sees it must not be there.

    Of course, I would guess that if you *could* see the opportunities that Google sees you'd not be writing a blog for a media research company or doing SEO work...

  18. Mike Ricciardelli from Bankrate, Inc.
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 1:22 PM
    Bill, I appreciate the possible legal issues and that is clearly a risk to Google - one they likely probed a lot before deciding to go through with the deal. However, your first two reasons are really not terribly important I don't believe. At this stage, Google feels quite comfortable with its ability to monetize visits/pageviews (e.g. mySpace deal). Worst case scenario (minus any legal woes) is Google works to monetize the YouTube traffic and cover its acquisition costs over a reasonable time period. Best case scenario, they successfully navigate the ship to be a continued leader in the (admittedly nacent) market for video online. Not sure they are really throwing in their $1.6M into 65 people and walking away hoping those few figure it all out.

  19. michael delahousaye from agency.com
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 1:14 PM
    Thanks for the input Bill. I think I will put my money with Goodle on this one. I think all of your issues are beatable. These guys are not infalible but this one seems about as likely to succeed as I can imagine.

  20. Eric Haas from ThinkTQ
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 12:35 PM
    This is why you are not a billionaire. The number of employees is not remotely an issue... the forward momentum is.

    ER

  21. Marc Bodner from Seven-Zero-Eight-Five
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 12:09 PM
    This was a wait and see bet by Google, who can afford another 50 to 60 of these deals out of petty cash! Everyone is in to money and the copyright lawyers/artists/studios will quitely come up with a deal so everyone profits from the "future" revenue stream. Maybe YouTube is really smart and not building a bloated staff. Other organizations may find them an interesting example. Bottom line is that Google does not need to make money on this deal, can use YouTube to learn what makes Web 2.0 tick so it can trump the competition on Web 3.0, and with all the buzz about this deal, will generate more than $1B in new revenues to its core product. If you had $130B in the bank, you'd have bought them too!

  22. Mike Ford from Startup
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 12:00 PM
    Yahoo paid $5 Billion for Broadcast.com...isn't YouTube a bargain in comparison? (Who could imagine the NBA without Mark Cuban?)

    YouTube certainly has better usage metrics than did Broadcast.

    Content owners will eventually get paid/rewarded and the legalities worked out. The distribution channel of YouTube is too big for content owners not to want exposure.

    Some might even see a future opportunity for content owners to auction off their videos based on popularity. Paris Hilton could go from rags to riches.

    Interesting point of view but my bet is the Google guys will figure it out.

  23. Zenophon Abraham from Sports Business Simulations
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 11:55 AM
    Hi,

    Look, don't take this personally, but...this is the DUMBEST article I've ever read on this subject or any Internet business matter. It's dumb for four primary reasons:

    1) The name of the Internet game is eyeballs and acquistion -- all of the major buys last year had huge traffic numbers. YouTube wins.

    2) There are NO real legal problems at all. You article tries to introduce what you think is a legal problem, but in so doing just shows how much exposure Justin Timberlake gets on YouTube!

    3) YouTube's 65 employee have $10 million behind them already -- and that was before Google.

    4) You are trying to INVENT reasons for this deal's failure rather than looking to what Google's gotten in the way of this massive asset.

    I do hope you write a better post in the future. I guess MediaPost Communications is interested in "sour graping" anything Web 2.0 -- watch out for Web 3.0 -- and so allowed you to enter this terrible article.

    Listen -- or "read" -- up. Try to understand the dynamics of our industry before you look at any deal.

    Thanks.

  24. Erik Hersman from Dynetech
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 11:37 AM
    Wow, I can't believe how totally out of touch with online media you are... Maybe you should stick to SEO/SEM instead of weighing in on things you have no idea about.

  25. john baron from subro cap
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 11:34 AM
    Spot on. It doesn't matter.Spot on Spot on. As the father of two college-age students, I'm always polling my kids and their friends on their habits i.e. online activity and influencers that drive them to act--specifically advertising. They hate the idea of ads on FaceBook, they don't embrace interactive marketing tactics pushed at them, and they ignore most if not all ads they encounter online. Presuming YouTube's audience is heavily weighted towards the 18-24 crowd...it won't prove to be a strong ad channel--regardless of the applications... Its irrelevant how many employees YouTube has. They can ramp as quickly as Larry can write a check. And it won't matter how many people they hire, unless the people they hire are going to be absorbing the advertising and acting upon the calls to action themselves. They can hire 100,000 staffers, and pay them to click on the ads and to purchase stuff. That might work. Legal issues. It doesn't matter how much money Google has--when Hollywood lawyers and Washington lobbyists get their next retainer check, Google will be facing an onslaught

  26. Doug Humphreys from The Jericho Group
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 11:30 AM
    Google is sitting on $138B cash...what do think they should have bought instead???

  27. Graeme Thickins from www.GraemeThickins.com
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 11:24 AM
    poppycock!

  28. Jonathan Marks from Critical Distance BV
    commented on: October 16, 2006 at 11:22 AM
    Spot on. This ranks along with the AOL-Time Warner deal as one of the biggest mistakes of all time. And Google keeps telling us they are not a content company...come on!

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