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Social Media Demands A Reinvented Agency
by Joe Marchese, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:45 PM

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Traveling during the last 10 days, I have had 26 meetings and two speaking engagements. I have had some amazingly insightful conversations with some of the smartest people about the social media challenge and opportunity, from the media agency, creative agency, marketer, and publisher perspective. One theme kept popping up: It's not that media shops, creative agencies and marketers don't see the potential of social media, it's that agencies, in their traditional role, have developed an organization that does not support the proper activation of social media for brands.

 

Put simply, Madison Avenue wasn't built to service brands in social media and, more importantly, Madison Avenue is not built to make money from the proper activation of social media for brands. The question is, can the system adapt, or will a new breed of agency be born in the vacuum of effective social media campaigns? Evolution or revolution? I have seen evidence of both.

Activating a brand in social media delivers a variety of benefits. Social media's conversational nature means that a campaign can deliver a lot more than simply message distribution. Social media can give a voice to a brand's customers (or those a brand would love to have as customers).

The effective social media agency will:

Be a long-term partner. There are no "campaigns." People will continue a conversation even though the calendar says you should be moving into a new campaign. Starting and stopping social media campaigns is guaranteed to waste resources and have very poor ROI. All the effort goes into building the social media conversation, and the positive ROI is really achieved once all you have to do maintain the conversation (which requires a lot fewer resources). For this reason, agencies effective in social media will look at multi-year engagements; rather than start and stop social media campaigns, they will work to help direct the conversation to achieve a brand's goals. As Adam Broitman of Morpheus Media said on my panel: "you shouldn't think in terms of running a social media 'campaign,' but instead think in terms of making a social media 'commitment.'"

Provide product feedback. Your social media supporters are your customers as well. A social media campaign, therefore, will allow an effective agency to deliver very pointed feedback directly to a brand's product team.

Provide message feedback to creative. Stuart Elliott of The New York Times, one of the people I had the pleasure of sitting with over the past 10 days, made the observation that when television was first introduced, advertising was having people stand in front of a microphone reading off a script about a product (like radio). It dawned on the industry that this new medium meant that new methods of advertising were possible -- and that they should capitalize on TV's unique picture and motion qualities.

You can't predefine your creative in social media, because it is a conversation. To predefine your creative would be like entering a conversation with a script, and no matter what the other person says, continuing to stick to your script. You might as well be standing in front of a microphone reading a product description. What a brand's social media activation partner will do is to make sure that people's feedback is properly distributed to the creative teams so that they can iterate on the creative elements. For more on how this is developing, read Brain Morrissey's recent Adweek piece, "Shops Strive for a New Formula."

Achieve social media message distribution. Of course, the effective social media agency will be able to measure and enhance the amount of distribution, or people sharing and talking about your brand. Rather than simply buying the media, a social media agency will know the various levers it can pull to help distribution -- i.e., more creative assets, games, etc., to create involvement.

Measure the ROI of brand campaigns (both inside and outside of social media). Social media is made up of people who buy brands -- and who frequently talk about what they do and don't like. Thus there is the ability to measure the effectiveness not only of your online social media efforts, but all of your various marketing efforts. It's up to the right agency partner to pull this all together for a brand.

An agency's new role in social media will be to maintain a brand's presence and extract various benefits that a brand should receive from making a social media commitment. To do this will require redefining the media agency's role. It will be far more consultative. It will interface with more facets of a client's organization. Tapping into all the ways an effective social media agency can deliver value to marketers, will set apart this new breed of agency. The skills required to coordinate effective social media management will command the margins required to support Madison Avenue.

I see some shops moving in this direction. Do you? Who is the closest? If you are an agency or a brand that feels you are moving towards this type of relationship, tell us!

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18 comments on "Social Media Demands A Reinvented Agency"

  1. Harold Cabezas from Cabezas Communications
    commented on: July 12, 2008 at 1:20 PM
    Thank you, Joe, thanks to all. Invaluable post and commentaries. I work the US Hispanic market/Multicultural market and I agree whole-heartedly with everything written and later commented. Social media has changed the landscape of advertising/ad-pr agencies. I personally believe a strong shift is coming that will be devastating to the old school agencies unless they change or are in the process of changing-what the strong shift will be, I am still analyzing, but I believe it will be here before 1st quarter 2010 (18 months). Again, thanks for all your information, it has been a tremendous resource.

  2. Jason Kintzler from PitchEngine
    commented on: July 08, 2008 at 1:28 PM
    We talk about these issues at length on PitchEngine http://mediapitch.ning.com. Taking your brand PR social is going to require more than a community manager, but also PR people that can introduce social media tools to traditional journalists, not just bloggers. There are multiple avenues to do this, PitchEngine is launching some soon designed to connect PR and media like never before. Thanks for the post.

  3. Joe Marchese from SocialVibe
    commented on: July 08, 2008 at 11:03 AM
    Hey all. Sorry comments were down so I wasn't able to respond to everyone. I address some of the issues in this week’s article, but if I didn't address your points, let's keep the conversation going. Your comments have been unbelievably valuable.

  4. Uriah Av-Ron from Oasis Public Relations
    commented on: July 02, 2008 at 3:37 PM
    Why should ad / interactive agenices even handle social media? Isn't it best handled in-house. Consultants can be brought in for consulting, ideas. best practices, and agencies like R/GA, AKQA should be used to create great applications, but shouldn't the majority of a social campaign be handled in-house?

  5. Jennifer Brinkmann from Standing Partnership
    commented on: July 02, 2008 at 1:03 PM
    I work for what began as a public relations firm and is transforming into an integrated agency with a core competency in social media. We saw a long time ago that ad agencies faced many hurdles in becoming true social media consultants -- hurdles that public relations agencies have not faced. In public relations, we always have made money on consulting rather than ad buys. Good public relations agencies have always looked at their engagements as long-term, rather than campaign focused. These dynamics make it much easier for this sector of the marketing field to integrate social media into reputation management programs. We find we often are helping our clients push their ad agencies to understand this new era of marketing. As you say, it is not clear what the design may be for an agency in this new environment. What remains clear is that social media has left the ad agencies vulnerable, and as a result opportunities have emerged for new players.

  6. Mike Masters from MetroQ
    commented on: July 02, 2008 at 1:00 PM
    Is it two words?... In House. Is is one word? ... Inhouse. Or do you hyphenate it as in-house? Yep, the ground is shaking and there needs to be serious catching-up at the agencies and PR firms.

  7. Michael Munz from higherimages
    commented on: July 02, 2008 at 10:34 AM
    The era of web 2.0 is quickly behind us. The agency(s) that have played catch-up, have fumbled with social media in it's infantcy. Now, we expect that agencies understand the basic of social media, will this be enough to offer a product? No, in my opinion. Most agencies (most is not a proper representation but we will use it), know there is a market in social media, but cannot find a way to commercialize it. I think your hit the nail on the head by describing the "new role" as a consultative position. Advertisers have been bringing alot of interactive media positions in-house. Another hurdle will be collaborating the current web strategy (and SEO) with the social media and the in -house (know-it-alls). A while back I penned an artcile with a phrase you used Social Medias (r)Evolution. That phrase embraces the true posture of social media. I have taken on the task of bringing my company up to speed and providing a revenue stream using Social Media Strategy. It will be a multi year contract with lots of consulting with online and offline marketing specialists. The horizon of social media is out of sight at this point, with social engagement points evolve/dissolve daily. Where/who will be the next myspace/facebook? How rich will the new media be? There are more questions than answers. We all need to keep pushing technolgy to its limits to foster innovation. Go social media!

  8. William Wilson from Aristotle
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 8:25 PM
    Amen, Joe.

    I have been a consultant with Aristotle Interactive Marketing for over 2.5 years. They have been way ahead of the curve on reinventing the role of a the modern marketing firm, and they have been moving towards this "type of relationship" since before I joined them.

    Here are a few links to a simple online sites that demonstrate Aristotle’s fundamental social networking approach.

    http://www.elvis.com/ http://www.myspace.com/elvis http://www.youtube.com/user/ElvisPresleyCentral http://www.elvisinsiders.com http://www.elvis.com/newsletters/

    This is just the “tip of the iceberg� of social networking tactics, but large organizations that are not utilizing existing free popular social networking systems today are wasting valuable opportunities.

    Designing a successful Social Networking Marketing plan is half of the battle. Detailed enhanced reporting is the crucial step that separates traditional agencies from the leading agencies that are utilizing "New Media" in order to start playing by "New Rules." Traditional advertisers and old marketing techniques no longer provide adequate intelligence anymore. Reporting the results accurately and appropriately is the real key to success. Emotionally based “trust me� reporting has been replaced with results based “show me the money� reporting.

    Today, a marketing professional can provide their board with comprehensive data that demonstrates the exact (minimum) ROI for a campaign or ongoing social networking project. For example, utilizing a unique landing page can generate trackable results for offline advertising methods that traditionally could not be adequately tracked (e.g. Billboard).

    No matter how simple minded and non-technical your board of curmudgeons may be, once you remove the uncertainty of the results they can’t ignore obvious revenue produced from trackable sources.

  9. Axel Schultze from Xeequa
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 5:49 PM
    It's funny you write this. I registered to put this comment in. But what a awful registration process - plastered with advertising stuff. So it's not only the old add agency suffering but all people who just don't get the change.

    Anyway - change is happening and change will continue to happen. Extinction of dinosaurs, machines, automobiles, computer, Internet, global warming...

    Forget discussing who will make the shift and who not - focus on the shift and enjoy the ride.

    www.globalnetworkelite.com

    Axel

  10. Lena West from xynoMedia Technology
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 5:18 PM
    There are so many things in social media that are presented in terms of being black and white - either or and I don't think it has to be that way.

    I do think it's going to be difficult for traditional agencies to "retrofit", but why should they? Says who?

    It's so easy to agency-bash. What's needed right now is someone to understand what agencies are going through (be big enough to not hold their immense historial profit margins against them) and work together with them to help deliver social media engagement as it should be. That's what we do. We even have a program that was developed specifically for this purpose.

    In as much as I would never want to turn my social media consulting firm into an ad agency, I can bet that ad agencies don't want to change who they are.

    The traditionals need allies now, not stone-throwers.

  11. Ian Schafer from Deep Focus
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 5:00 PM
    Maybe this is a lesson for agencies themselves to become more 'social' with one another -- and I don't mean happy hours or Rock Band competitions.

  12. Ian Schafer from Deep Focus
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 4:59 PM
    Or you can do as Deep Focus did and start the agency this way (integrated) from the beginning. It's going to be very, very difficult to retrofit. Most large agencies need scale (breadth) to make money -- they've got thousands of mouths to feed. But a truly integrated agency that was built that way from the ground up, to focus on the depth of engagement, of conversation, of innovation, of interaction, of experience is going to be the kind of agency that can deliver solutions -- and execute them -- in the long run.

    The fact is, I just don't think the biggest of agencies will be the ones that deliver the best of solutions to their clients. It's likely going to have to be a shared space -- with the more focused agencies playing a larger role. And agencies that consider technology just as important as media, relationships as important as creative -- those will be the ones that win out.

    Sure, I'm biased. But shouldn't I be?

  13. Adam Broitman from Morpheus Media
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 4:55 PM
    Great post Joe and thanks for the shout out!

    For attribution's sake, the phrase "Marketing is a Commitment" is a Joseph Jaffe-ism.

    Just thought i would throw it out there :)

  14. rob key from Converseon
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 4:44 PM
    Hi Joe -- good post. I was one of those fellow panel speakers at OMMA and came away with much the same perspective.

    One point i'd add is that we often say that social media may be technically relatively easy, but culturally quite difficult. It's for that reason we at Converseon have had great success with ours social media consulting practice which is specifically designed to help clients (mostly enterprise level) transform internally through governance, training, policy/ethics, issues, etc. We've come to the conclusion through many engagements that this type of consulting -- which obviously is not a core competence of most agencies -- is critically important to help these brands become successful in social media. It's not about a campaign but a change in mindset. Further, without this business transformation, very few agencies, no matter how creative, will be able to be successful in social media for these clients. Social media success has to come from the inside out. Cheers.

  15. Rich Reader from Wirikutero
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 4:27 PM
    Look at the case studies done by Charlene Li and Josh Bernoff in their book "Groundswell". The client CEOs and CFOs get it. The agencies get it, too, but the vast majority of them are pretending not to instead of re-inventing themselves. They don't realize that they won't be allowed to keep on selling horse whips for the buggies that they call media plans.

  16. Amanda Vega from Amanda Vega Consulting
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 3:36 PM
    Great article and I couldn't agree more. We are working with many agencies, traditional and interactive, and the issues and push back make sense once you dive into their realities of profit margin (much higher and easier to make on traditional "stuff" and interactive "deliverables" like a website) and also their current staffing situations. As we all know on here, social media management, especially when it comes to reputation management and comment marketing activities (community manager is a great way to put it Martin) requires constant daily attention and interaction/output of content that is properly tagged and tracked and feeds back into the overall plan/goal of the company. Most agencies don't have the bodies one, or the training to do it properly if they do have bodies. That's why we offer training for this type of thing...how to know which of 250 possible tools, tricks, add-ins, etc. that are involved in social media.

    We also stress the most about how social media is seen by some agencies, as you said, as a "campaign" and leave the conversations dry when they are done pushing what isn't social media at all, but instead just another rendering of their ads they created. I comment on this in my last post about how you can't push your TV ads onto youTube and call it "social media" and you can't just take over myspace for a day and call that social media either. http://amandavegaconsulting.wordpress.com/

    I'd say the we are simply visiting the same conversation with just a new deliverable/activity that us oldtimers in the industry have been battling for years. Interactive, whether it be a site, SEO, or social media, is still seen as the bastard child of marketing/advertising - less budget allocation, less thought, and a complete undervalue of how much more time, energy, and quite frankly intelligence it takes to manage these activities is truly sad.

    On a good note, we do know of two agencies out there that are very aware of these challenges and are trying to answer the calling through partnering with those of us that DO know how to integrate...even if it's still like pulling teeth at times.

    I can't wait for the day that the coin flips...and interactive controls the messaging, the buys, etc. and print/tv get 3% of budget instead of internet!

  17. Scott Burkey from Catapult New Business
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 2:54 PM
    I work with a fair amount of agencies in my line of work and agree with you guys, for the most part. I do think it will take at least a progressive-thinking, smart interactive agency to make the shift. Interactive agencies typically have more of what it takes to be able to consult/implement/manage social platforms for their clients while still understanding the clients overarching marketing strategy. (note that I said SMART interactive agency)

    Having been a part of a large online community (CNN Interactive, when they had an online community that was huge) and also being a web geek (web developer/web master) I'd agree with you Martin that it's more about community and less about web savvy-ness. Good post.

  18. Martin Edic from Techrigy, Inc.
    commented on: July 01, 2008 at 2:47 PM
    It's such a different way to do things that I have serious doubts about the ability of many agency people to make the shift. There is still so much talk of trying to push messages out to social media users, a process that not only won't work, it will in fact do damage to brands. Given that we're on the listening side (we provide a monitoring tool) I've been working to help our clients (primarily agencies) develop a way to build and execute an on-going engagement plan. Perhaps the most important piece is a new role known as community manager. We have one here at Techrigy, Jim Wu, who is online all day. A friend of mine in the publishing business called me this morning looking for a 'web geek' who could engage in conversations about a hot title they have coming. I told her she needs a community manager and she glommed onto the concept immediately. As an aside, the term 'community manager' is really new, yet large companies are out there looking for them. I hope the agencies are doing the same.

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