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Google Addresses Video Concerns
by Tom Ohanian, Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 9:30 AM

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Over the last few weeks, Mark Cuban has blogged about Google, YouTube, and Hulu. These blogs have included the following, and I paraphrase the concepts: 1. That if you upload your content to YouTube, be forever prepared for Google to own your content, and every right associated with that content. 2. That YouTube, with its amalgam and mishmash of content, has no business model that is sustainable. 3. That "Hulu is kicking YouTube's Ass."

Now, I watch videos on YouTube and I watch videos on Hulu. Frankly, I think they are both great for what they are. And to me that precise combination of words, "what they are" is a key in being able to enjoy them. Everyone has a notion of what YouTube is all about and the content there is decidedly not just about the often-cited-now-clichéd cat flushing a toilet. I know just as many people who watch excerpts of shows, concerts, cooking tips -- you name it -- and are thrilled to find those things.

And Hulu is wonderful. The user interface is streamlined, intelligent, and intuitive. And the content diversity continues to grow with an interesting mixture of old, nostalgic, and new.

But Google's recent announcement that "Family Guy" creator Seth McFarlane will be creating exclusive content for Google and served up as part of its AdSense system demands attention. First, the content is uniquely tied to ad revenue through pre-rolls, post-rolls, or overlays. Second, the content is from a proven creator of programming. Third, there is a significant budget associated with creating the content for "Seth McFarlane's Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy," a collection of 50 two-minute episodes. In several different reports, that production cost is purported to be in the multimillions. Fourth, the ever elusive "what's the business model?" question appears to be answered in that when a viewer clicks on the video clip, that advertiser pays a fee. Fifth, the general viewer make-up for this content is better known than is usually the case. This makes it possible to push the content to where the viewer is addressed, instead of creating a presence to which interested viewers must proactively navigate.

The notion (and the allure) that there may be a way to offer one piece of content that is associated with X number of advertisers for those two minutes is enormous. What does a time-slice mean when you can do that? Instead of being able to only sell, say three spots, if the content is syndicated to 50 sites, that's 150 slices for ad placement (pre-roll, overlay, and post-roll). And who wouldn't be tempted to place that bet?

Signiant recently participated in an iHollywood webinar that was entitled, "The Truth about Digital: Fact vs. Fiction in the Digital Supply Chain." One of the questions I received had to do with how content will be delivered based on user preferences and user input, and how the content would potentially be reformatted on-the-fly according to a viewer's "input or settings." Much of this will need to be accomplished by what I like to refer to as "automated recombinant digital media workflows" (how do you like that?), that have to be modeled, created, and put in place very quickly.

I think that the "where's the business model," "the content looks crappy," "you won't own the content" musings are rapidly turning into very well-thought-out approaches -- and those notions are going to become meaningless in very short order.

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10 comments on "Google Addresses Video Concerns"

  1. Jeff Bach from Quietwater Films
    commented on: July 26, 2008 at 7:11 PM
    Jambo and Empact your stuff sounds great - except I have never heard of you. This is the problem that GooTube solves and one of the posters mentioned above. If your success relies on you finding your own customers the odds are against you. If, like GooTube, your customers are coming to you, then the odds are much better.

    This remains the age old problem that TV solves and that a select few websites like YouTube also seem to have a handle on.

    Quit solving the technology problem. Technology is a commodity. There's plenty of it around and not enough demand. Solve the distribution and discovery problems - you'll be EVERYBODY'S hero then!

    my .02 JB

  2. Robert Manoff from Elite Street LLC
    commented on: July 17, 2008 at 11:19 AM
    Our company Jambo Media, has been running the Jambo Video Network, http://www.JamboVideoNetwork.com for two years using this business model that Google has "introduced". It works very well and allows content to reach sites that it could have never done before.

  3. steve heideman from Curious
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 12:57 PM
    What's new about this technology?? It already exists it is called Empactv. The website to check it out is www.empactv.com. The technology would make Hulu jump off the map!!

  4. Lee Rubenstein from TBA Global
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 12:50 PM
    Tom-The McFarlane deal is exceptionally interesting on several levels. There is an extremely motivated and creatively well equipped group of 'premium' content creators, like TBA DEEP division, that can capitalize on the innovations on distribution strategies and technologies. Those technical solutions are the key to enticing interested brand marketers into repurposing traditional media dollars into branded content'connective' experiences with their target audiences. For each new benchmark touted , 10 more companies will emerge with a similar or better, but undernoticed solution. Whether its transcoding or timeslicing, techologists (hey we've seen this before in the 80's-90's) will overwhelm the market with VC funded innovation, and the most agile at creating workable business solutions for brands and content providers will be the winners--whether they or best of breed or not. As for YouTube predictions on their sustainability, Cuban is being controversial for the fun of it. We should all think 'EBay' when we look at YouTube-it's megalithic! The ' global community' on it's own, has decided YouTube is what they needed and they found it, supported, and grew it. - This is where the world changing successes in a 2.0 universe come from. It wasn't the brainchild of a brand marketer or a technologist-. I can think of a dozen business models that can make YouTube as profitable as EBay, and I am a neophyte compared to YouTube's operators. Premium content will get the most 'looks' from targeted consumers, as it has predictive value before its ever viewed. However the gigantic video enabled POPulation of the 21st Century has now armed up to express themselves as content creators-and they dont care how chaotic their virtual community is--because they have found themselves an everexpanding home at YouTube where they can avoid anonymity in the digital age. Having a creative outlet accessible to billions to participate in as both creators and consumers is the game changer it is unwise to overlook.

  5. Brett Hill from HotPluto.com
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 12:27 PM
    Great article! YouTube and Hulu are different video content sites--they each have their unique contribution.

    With video advertising, they may both have different approaches here but I iwll focus on YouTube's strtegy: 1st of all, I don't see a viable approach that gives advertisers a great value for a $50k entry point. With the latest press release out there about advertisers concerns over their ad popping up next to questionable content--they seem to have a long way to go to garner the interest of big brands.

    What about the 25 million small businesses across the U.S.? What does YouTube provide for them? With video advertising costs almost as expensive as television advertising, the same 17000 advertisers that support the industry are going to continue advertising over the Internet with Video (if YouTube can make them feel comfortable and they adopt the CPM--banner ad model) What about the other 24,983,000 businesses in America?

    www.hotpluto.com, although not nearly the size of YouTube, can grow to establish quite a pressence in video advertising because the site is: - Just for video advertising - Entry points are $19.95 to $99.95 per month with fixed monthly budgets - Business profiles and weblinks are included with the video ad - Accounts get up to 7 video ads - They can post to multiple categories - They can create and offer online discount coupons - They can interact directly with consumers - And they can tract comprehensive Web Stats

    This type of video advertising will attract many of millions of businesses that have been out of traditional advertising in the past because it has been cost prohibitive.

    Both YouTube and Hulu provide meaningful content--no doubt. The quesiton is, how much of the video advertising community will they attract and what value will they provide.

    There are other ways--better ways to do things. Sites like www.hotpluto.com don't ovelay ads on other content and they don't make video advertising intrusive.

  6. Amber Young from RipCode
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 12:09 PM
    Tom, I want to address the question you received in the webinar regarding how content will be delivered based on user preferences and user input, and how the content would potentially be reformatted on-the-fly according to a viewer’s “input or settings.� I agree that this needs to be accomplished by “automated recombinant digital media workflows� (great name, by the way). A company called RipCode (www.ripcode.com) has developed a next-generation transcoding appliance that addresses this problem by utilizing a unique technology called On-Demand Transcoding. This allows all content to be stored in a single format, for instance, Flash VP6, (thus dramatically decreasing costs associated with storage). As a user requests a specific piece of content, the transcoding appliance has the ability to detect the format needed and start streaming this content to the user in real-time. This is more of a file: stream transcode; however, this content can now be stored in cache, if needed. In order to monetize this, pre and postroll ads can be dynamically inserted into the content. Sounds like a great solution- right? We certainly think so.

  7. Mark Donohue from Sony Pictures Television
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 11:30 AM
    The GooTube model has made a business out of the professional clips and content snared from professional sources. Riding the back of other companies investment in quality is not sustainable, hence this Macfarlane deal. It's a step in the right direction, and hopefully a step away from pirating.

  8. tom patterson from digital containers
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 11:03 AM
    Tom-- Cuban's blogs have been looking for new ways to share and distribute valuable content, while your report just focused on web-based streaming as the way of the future. What Mark sees is that 44% of all Internet traffic is now P2P fileshare.

    While day-to-day parts of Google, MSFT, Yahoo, and others are simply trying to find more ways to stream pre, post, and overlay ads, other (more forward thinking, IMHO), are focused on how to give the consumer what they want, where they want it, and delivered how they like it. This 'new' model (first discussed in 94 in Wired Mag) called Superdistribution, provides all of this, and can even cut the viewer in on the revenue streams.

    Microsoft has built to it, Adobe is aiming there, and my company, Digital Containers now has a fully operational system. While streaming will always have it's place, superdistribution models have more advantages to both content owner and viewer.

    There's a good demo of superdistribution in action for valuable video at:

    http://tinyurl.com/superdistribution

  9. Colin Donald from Futurescape
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 10:15 AM
    Tom, as the co-founder of Futurescape, a company that researches the online TV space, I completely agree that the MacFarlane / Google deal is highly significant.

    It gives Google the opportunity to leverage the massive reach of the AdSense network, plus YouTube, to become the dominant distributor of original Web shows.

    Without effective distribution and promotion, many new shows will simply never be found by their target audience. And the same goes for the ads.

    More analysis of the ramifications of the deal here:

    http://tinyurl.com/sethgoogle

  10. stephen ward from empactv
    commented on: July 16, 2008 at 9:50 AM
    Empactv.com has been doing "time slicing" or more importantly product mapping for a while now.

    Empact can relate hundreds of products to any piece of video. The nice thing about Empacts technology is it's based on what you see and hear, not time so hundreds of advertisers can be related to a single video.

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  • Tom Ohanian is Chief Strategy Officer, Signiant Corp. Tom was on the founding team of Avid Technology and is an Academy Award® and two-time Emmy® recipient.


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