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Google To Decode Social Networks
by Joe Marchese, Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:47 AM

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Google has finally decided to unlock social media for marketers, which I think is mighty nice of them. I mean, one would think that buying YouTube and signing a nearly billion dollar deal with MySpace would have got their juices going some time ago, but I am sure they had other things going on. (Now removing tongue from cheek.) It is interesting that Business Week's Heather Green is breaking news of an "influence rank" calculation being developed by Google (that Google won't comment on) in her piece "Making Social Networks Profitable,"  because, well -- it's Google.

The article highlights a Google patent application that hints at attempts by the search giant to develop a system for measuring people's influence within their online social networks. Of course every player in the social space has been trying to figure out the best way to map this, it's just that Google's past success and current resources are reason to believe. But before you start thinking it's only a matter of time before GOOG tops $1,000, there are a couple of hurdles.

The first issue is the easy one: How accurate can an online influence rank really be? Intuitively, we think that activity = influence. But someone with thousands of social network "friends" she actually knows very little has a very different influence than one connected to ten friends she knows very well. Heck, two people that both have thousands of friends can have very different influence. Even more confusing is that the same person might influence two different friends in two different ways. People just don't connect online in the same way they connect in the real world.

What does this mean for marketers? That someone with online influence (getting people to click on links, and consume online content) might not be able to get people to take action in the real world (start trends, encourage purchases).

Truthfully, though, the issue of developing an accurate influence rank can be solved, and if anyone can solve it, my money is on Google, or MicroBook if Ballmer and Zuckerberg decide to combine forces, or some small upstart that takes a totally fresh (and later obvious) approach to this massive business problem. One way or another, we will all have a solid influence rank for social media some day, just as Heather Green suggests.

The harder issue facing would-be saviors of social networks and marketers is what to do with people's influence rank once it can be measured. Just because my influence over my peers can be measured, doesn't mean marketers gain access to that influence. Think about it for a second. Marketers already know people have influence over their peers. Achieving word-of-mouth is the holy grail of marketing. Measuring people's influence is a great first step, but making use of that data means rethinking the role of marketers and their agencies.

If you want people to influence others in your favor, stop trying to "use" consumers' influence and start using social media to earn their support. How people use their influence is up to them. Use social media to listen, to create better campaigns, to deliver your marketing messaging  -- and, most of all, to deliver better products. As I said, not the typical role of the agency, but Mediabrands CEO Nick Brien, for one, thinks agencies are coming around to this view in 2009.   What do you think?

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7 comments on "Google To Decode Social Networks"

  1. Philip Dorman from Confucius Says
    commented on: October 03, 2008 at 11:59 AM
    It's all caught up in that mindset of "using" the social network. The key things for brands is to build the relationship.

    When it comes to targeting "influencers" on social networking sites like facebook isn't there already a great model halfway built? Cost per action advertising placed in facebook pages will rapidly show who is and isn't influencing their peers' purchasing/brand related action taking. I guess that just pushes social media to be "yet another" channel rather than the holy grail some are hoping for.

    What about building a model for a brand's own social network? I believe that what we're doing at ConfuciusSays, creating a client access only model of that network (profiling the key members of their market: consumers, trade and other influencers and mapping the relationships between them) is the most exciting way to "unlock" social network power for brands. As long as you tag onto a facebook you are trying to use or buy other people's influence. Surely it's better to make the most of your brand's own influence?

  2. Jeremy Thum from Main company
    commented on: October 01, 2008 at 9:07 AM
    Some great points here Joe. Listening to your social network is probably the most important step. Isn't this what Google's ranking is really aiming to do? "Listen" to the network, and identify the major players, thus providing a quantifiable target to start a viral campaign?

  3. Trent Partridge from Cohen & Company Creative
    commented on: September 30, 2008 at 3:49 PM
    I think this influence ranking could be a little interesting. What if I have a strong influence rank what do I get? I am ranked #1 for my influence on MySpace and Facebook. Do I just get congratulated while MySpace and Facebook make money without me getting paid. What if MySpace and Facebook start to charge more because my influence ranking is high. Now I am really mad. We know MySpace and Facebook do not pay users for ads. But if users influence rank is high their name becomes a keyword and then possibly we get into PPC

    I think social website users not getting paid for building a websites content created the social pay model that Yuwie(Where it pays to socialize) subscribes to. If social users can build power pages why not give them a small cut little.

    Trent Partridge Director of of Search Engine Optimization and Social Media Marketing CohenAdv.com

  4. Steve Baldwin from Didit
    commented on: September 30, 2008 at 2:54 PM
    This could be great if Google can figure out a way to make people pay them to make them look more influential than they are.

  5. Anthony Power from Studeo
    commented on: September 30, 2008 at 1:32 PM
    Influence is a lot like a tadpole. Extremely easy to visualize but hard to actually explain the inner workings. Borrowing a bit of social network analysis and marketing it seems influence could be considered a function of a couple of factors: Trust and Charge. Do I trust the resource? and are they recommending a specific item?

    Trust in turn is a function of strength of the relationship with a resource and the category relevance she has to the question at hand. I have a long history of experience with friends from high-school but their opinions don't carry much weight in terms of what programmer I'd choose to build the next application.

    Even if I have a trustworthy, relevant resource what they say about a specific brand (it's charge so to speak) also impacts influence. The sentiment, consideration set and timing all play some role in determining influence.

    What makes this fascinating is that each decision has an entirely different set of influential resources. There is no one size fits all. Dynamically building a social graph for a specific decision is worthy of our attention.

  6. Devin Davis from G5 Search Marketing
    commented on: September 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM
    While the Social Media puzzle has yet to be solved, and Facebook still needs to find an effective monetization model, there are certainly instances where the simple ads on their site are working.

    Example: we have a client in some major markets where there are major universities. This client is in self storage. Thus, university students are a target market. For a market such as that, Facebook proved a boon. It was incredibly cost effective (often cheaper than Google) but had the same cost per customer (which we are able to measure with our media dashboard).

    Ostensibly, the Facebook model is excellent for certain segments. The real issue, is that it's monetization is currently limited. That's less a marketer problem, in my view, however, and more a problem for Social Media Purveyors to figure out how to properly monetize themselves.

  7. Martin Edic from Techrigy, Inc.
    commented on: September 30, 2008 at 12:09 PM
    While we provide an Authority/Popularity rank in our social media results, I always discuss it with a grain of salt: Reach and influence in traditional and web media are the standards people are used to. In social media, however, a very low influence source can break a story, release a trade secret or slam a reputation and become a very high influence source almost instantly. Al it takes is a more authoritative source to link back to the originator. This exponential nature of social media is a key differentiator from any prior way of communicating. How do you measure influence when the source may be hyper-influential today and gone tomorrow? You have to have tools that measure, monitor and provide analysis tools in real time. This is not search as we knew it.

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