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Brand Marketing Is Dead
by Cory Treffiletti, Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:15 AM

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I was having breakfast with Eric Yang and Phil Kaplan on Saturday, and we were engaged in a healthy discussion regarding online marketing (yes -- it's a pretty geeky thing to be talking about on a Saturday morning over dim sum, but we like it). Discussing the possible impact of the economy on advertising in general for the next six months, we all agreed that the effect will be similar to what happened in 2000: brand dollars will be harder to come by, and direct response marketers will continue to spend against accountable forms of media, with online media continuing to lead the charge.

During this discussion I had an epiphany that not all of you will agree with, but is still worth stating for debate. Waving the flag of brand-building in an accountable marketplace is akin to saying "you have no idea what you're doing." Building a brand is not the end goal of your marketing, so don't pretend that is how you are spending your money when you can track far beyond that goal.

The epiphany came about because we all had examples of clients who came to us proclaiming "brand, brand, brand" -- but we all ended up assigning them interim or proxy metrics that measured interaction in one way or another (in some cases it was click rate, in others it was actions), and used those metrics to translate to customers.

The fact of the matter is that in an era of accountability where digital media can almost always be used to measure some element of response, all marketing is either direct or indirect marketing. All marketing should be and can be accountable, and any marketer that's still out there proclaiming "brand, brand, brand" hasn't done their homework to fully understand their consumers -- or to fully understand the medium in which we work.

I'm not saying that brand advertising is not necessary, but I am very clearly stating that brand development is a transitional metric. Building a brand is not and never was the end goal of marketing. Building a brand is a transition metric to driving sales or increasing market share -- and that is the goal of all marketing. There is not one example of any marketer in the world that spends money with no expectations on ROI, so why should we pretend any differently?

In the old world of marketing and advertising, we used brand building as a metric of success because we lacked the ability to create unique patterns of accountability in media. But media has now progressed to a state where you can almost absolutely attribute performance in your campaign to individual media tracts. The creative is a variable that can be worked with and performance-affected, but simple multivariate testing can be performed and ROI can be increased. Not all marketers are savvy enough to manage all of these variables effectively, but the tools are there; with the correct process and parameters in place, it can be done.

As belts tighten in the next six months, I believe we will see the end of spending against non-accountable media. As Wall Street becomes accountable, so will all the companies that are involved -- and marketing as a whole will be forced to embrace the tools and services that prove effectiveness. Of course, many of you will read this and say, "Great -- he's saying that click rates are important." They are not the primary measure of success. Interaction rates and click stream and repeat visits, as well as consumer interactions with all your marketing components, are what I profess you should be measuring. Isolate the variables and test appropriately across media vehicles, but measure the entire track from exposure to acquisition, and your efforts will be rewarded. Oh -- and be sure that you know how much you spent, and what increase or decrease you saw in sales -- because that is the most fundamental strategic metric you can measure.

For publishers: You need to start understanding the relationship you have with your audience. You need to start understanding how your site affects, if it does at all, the behaviors and patterns of your audience. Understand how exposure to advertising on your site can affect the business your clients are running.

Brand-building is dead, but marketing is not. You may still measure brand awareness and favorability, but only in their direct correlation to intent and purchase. Those are your true metrics for success, so focus your attention against those, and you will succeed in the coming six months.

Do you agree -- or do you think we missed something last Saturday morning?

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32 comments on "Brand Marketing Is Dead"

  1. Tim Orr from Barnett Orr Marketing Group, Inc.
    commented on: April 24, 2009 at 5:55 PM
    Any subject practically no one can define but on which practically everyone is an expert is, in my opinion, snake oil. Here's what Bob Hoffman of adcontrarian.com says: "We don’t get them to try our product by convincing them to love our brand. We get them to love our brand by convincing them to try our product." If I understand Cory correctly, it's all about getting people to take action, specifically, to buy. A brand is a promise (good, bad, indifferent). Only by trying the brand do people find out what that promise actually is.

  2. Brian Creath from Cohesion.
    commented on: April 24, 2009 at 1:48 PM
    Nope. Brands are not dead. Read more at: http://briancreath.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/brands-are-not-dead-the-readers-speak/

  3. Pramod Tonapi from CIOL
    commented on: October 20, 2008 at 3:40 AM
    Needless to say brand marketing is NOT dead. The article seems to focus on the after effects of the economic recession on marketing spend. In this regard, a rational approach being taken by marketers is one of reducing the media options.

    If earlier, they were spending on four to five media, they will now gon in for the top 2 or 3 which have yielded the best results in the past. However, once this shortlisting is done, the money will be obviously spent on brand building.

    What you missed on that Saturday? "If everyone goes in for ROI driven maketing, how will marketers differentiate their products?"

  4. Brendan Gellman from Tumri
    commented on: October 10, 2008 at 5:05 PM
    While we can all debate what is and should be defined as true "awareness" initiatives and their corresponding KPI's, However, I'm sure most would agree that with the economy now being what it is and where it's headed, advertisers are going to require a greater focus on ROI and not settle for loose awareness objectives. As such, the need for our adserving platforms to become "intelligent" resulting in increased relevancy to consumers is crucial. I highly suggest taking a look at a new optimization technology that dynamically deconstructs ads into their core sub components and reconstrucs at the time of ad-call based on multivariate testing & optimizations as well as the contextual environment...Tumri.com.

    I'd love to hear any feedback you may have on how this platform fits within the digital marketing ecosystem based on our new realities.

    Brendan (bg@tumri.com)

    Feel free to reach out with any feedback to bg@tumri.com

  5. Erik Schutzman from IMPAQT
    commented on: October 09, 2008 at 9:32 AM
    Well put Paula. That was kind of what I was trying to say. It is an ecosystem of marketing which is organic more than concrete, shifting and adapting as necessary to survive. I always wonder why people will pay several dollars more for coffee at Starbuck's. Is it really better service, quality, or a better paid search campaign? No, it's a brand perception built from a number of touch points. People's perceptions are fickle and for a brand to survive, marketers need to adapt there mixture of the entire campaign.

  6. Paula Lynn from Who Else Unlimited; hollywood5459@verizon.net
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:36 PM
    There is not just one aspect of branding or media or creative or execution or marketing or PR or or or. They all work together on varying balancing scale whether a major account or a small business. The restaurant example was pretty good. The why the one restaurant and not the others. Add in atmosphere, pricing, food quality, quantity, variety and the time and day. Also remember - everybody goes where everybody goes and the old Cheers line "where everybody knows your name" motto (analyze among yourselves). Call it WOM if you like. It can, too, change like the wind and then the patrons all leave and wonder where everyone else went. One other thing - too many products in too many outlets with too many people with less money.

    If you want to measure how your marketing is working, ask the lowly salesperson on the streets who selling to either the end user or the person who is selling to their end user. Many of in the commissioned salesforce are the people who use all of the aforementioned skills to justify the marketers' existence.

  7. Daniel Laury from LSF Interactive
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:18 PM
    Cory, as much as I would like to agree with you, I don't think that I can. It depends on the product and on the type of marketing or advertising action you need to do for it. I even contend that the amount of accountable online marketing you can do for a certain product or service can be greatly influenced by your branding dollars. I'll give you one example: most of our well-known brand clients quickly plateau in terms of search (PPC) volume when looking at an immediate ROI number. In order to expand the volume of leads, transactions or customers, they get from search, they must go into branding campaigns (or loosen up the ROI numbers, which to me is about the same). I think that we will continue to see both accountable online marketing and branding advertising go hand in hand for many years to come.

  8. Michelle Cubas from Positive Potentials LLC
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 4:42 PM
    Cory, you're getting warmer and heading toward my philosophy of marketing. As times turn learn, we can't waste resources. This brings the cream to the top.

    To your point: "Brand-building is dead, but marketing is not. You may still measure brand awareness and favorability, but only in their direct correlation to intent and purchase. Those are your true metrics for success . . " I want to support the idea that marketing is the costume, the lyrics, the billboard and everything that touches your "show." Metrics are essential however, if we're not measuring what matters, it's a charade.

    Other elements to consider: 1. How about repeat business or referrals gained? 2. Positive vs. negative customer feedback. 3. Redemption of offers through all channels.

    Ever since I became an "official" marketer, my sense was that marketers were attempting to justify their existence. Therefore, the natural adversarial relationship with sales, non-revenue vs. revenue producing. Try running a business without marketing and let me know how it goes.

  9. Drew Williamson from State Bar of Arizona
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 4:02 PM
    I hope all of my clients' competitors follow your advice. No competitor is an easier target than one who ignores branding because they do themselves in. The competitive nature of markets drives all selling prices down to cost and sometimes below. Branding is the only way to set your product or service apart from competition on price.

  10. Brad Stewart from Paymail Inc.
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 3:18 PM
    Yes, Ron. I agree. Media is only one important component of brand building. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. But, in this respect specifically, there will be a disproportionate paradigm shift. That's what I got from the article.

  11. jason rysavy from Catalyst Studios
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 2:36 PM
    Disagree. It seems the statement of "brand building is dead" pops up now and then. Typically I find the people stating this are involved in metric tracking. Not marketers. You don't have to look very far to see branding success, even in a downward trending economy. Look at Zappos. A "brand" built by service. There's no tracking with all their twitter activity, yet they wouldn't hesitate to say that the time investment there turns into sales, turns into more passionate employees, etc.

    Companies need a plan. A plan to go to market, a plan to build business. Of course creating a tactic around DM is part of that plan. But that's a tactic, not a strategy. Marketers create strategies to build a brand. Once that's in place, building the tactics become a commodity. Building tactics generate sales, but then all you are is a sales person trying to find your next lead. To get people to find you, you need a brand.

  12. Ron Stitt from Fox Television Stations/MyNetworkTV
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 1:27 PM
    @Cory "you spend money to drive sales." Of course, that has always been true. The real issue is whether you expect to see the sales result immediately on every $ you spend. You did actually say though "brand building is dead". I guess it's good to be provocative...gets everybody riled up.

  13. Cory Treffiletti from Catalyst:SF - A Marketing Capital Firm focused on Strategy & Fundamentals
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 1:18 PM
    I think some of you may have missed the point.

    Branding is not actually "dead", however it is NOT the end goal. You do not spend money to "build a brand". You spend money to drive sales! Building a brand is one metric on the way to sales and hopefully translates into sales, but it is not the end oal of your marketing.

    Does that help clarify the point I was trying to make?

    Don't be so literal gang :-)

  14. Eileen Long from Digital Media Professional
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 12:55 PM
    Although the tactical approaches have changed - -building a brand ie. a 'personality for' or a 'value response to' your business gives you a competitive edge! Measuring the results of your marketing plan has always been a key success element regardless of the communication platform used - -and in the current environment, those kpi reports get a lot of attention.

  15. Jonathan Mendez from RAMP Digital
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 11:57 AM
    Brand building is not dead. Spending money on advertising to build a brand is.

    Brand building is now UX. Brand building is now relevance.

    Google, Craigslist, Facebook all built great brands without a dollar of ad spend. Lots to learn from them.

    Last, we every DM knows brand drives performance. How many of us would hit CPA goals with buying brand keywords or using logos on our affiliate pages?

  16. Ron Stitt from Fox Television Stations/MyNetworkTV
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 11:45 AM
    Brad, "pay, spray and pray" media pricing may be dying, but media is only one component of brand building. No matter how radically media technology, consumption patterns and media buying practices evolve, it does not change the essence of what a brand is. It just changes a significant part of the tool set you use to build/maintain your brand assets. I find on discussions like this there's too much loose use of terminology... "brand" & "logo", "advertising" & "marketing" seen as interchangeable, synonyms. They are not.

  17. Brad Stewart from Paymail Inc.
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 11:15 AM
    I agree that traditional brand marketing is dead if we are all in agreement that this roughly can be equivocated to "pay, spray, and pray" pricing. I often wonder how long it might be before CPM pricing dies entirely online. Essentially, I agree with the essence of this article. Mainly, that such pricing models are not accountable, and essentially put the risk in the advertiser's ring.

  18. Ron Hendricks from Datamark
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 11:09 AM
    While brand is just one of the key factors that drives response, it is a key factor. As others have pointed out, brand is more about the consumer's emotional drive to engage a service or product than a logical one. Without brand strategy you are left with such attributes as speeds, feeds, price and availability. The reason marketing exists is because humans are emotional, and emotion plays an important part in most every purchasing decision we make. Today we can clearly measure brand's affects on response. It is the response strategy’s responsibility to leverage the brand and the branding strategy’s responsibility, to manage the consumer’s perception of the brand. A beautiful thing when it all comes together. It’s those who maintain a wall between their brand and response strategies that will be dead.

  19. Tim Donaldson from Connected Ventures
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 11:08 AM
    Financial services? Sure. Car makers? Absolutely. Soft drink companies? Hmmm. Luxury goods? Brand is everything.

    I think talking about each and every advertiser like they all sell the same widget doesn't take into account the complexity of our chosen field.

  20. Chauncey Zalkin from Girl on the street
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 10:46 AM
    i believe in industry, i believe in services for the people, i believe in quality goods, i believe that brands can be like citizens - tell stories, relate, communicate, contribute to the dialogue, give solutions, provide texture, carve new paths. i respect that clients demand ROI from their marketers but to say that creativity and concept building (which i think is inextricably linked to product and operational development) has been phased out by accountability to the numbers? well thats like saying produce before you conceive. it ain't happening. and who would want it to? that would make us robots - less than our parts, less than human. just a bunch of 1s and 2s floating around our xs an ys. the brand is the story, if its authentic, thoughtful, grounded, and yes, accountable to the truth.

  21. Lee Pavach from ForeSee Results, Inc.
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 10:22 AM
    Marketers just need more credible, accurate and reliable measures of the intangible value of brand building and of delivering a favorable brand experience -- and how it influences purchase behavior. Using a predictive econometric model, we can gauge customer satisfaction among website visitors (customers and first-time visitors alike) and quantify the links to future behavior, such as purchase (online or offline), recommend, brand preference, customer loyalty. Most surveys are so focused on fixing anything anyone complains about or giving the company a false sense of security that some high percentage of customers fall into the "satisfied" bucket, however they define it (top box, "promoters" etc.) There is tremendous opportunity to use the cost-efficient customer touchpoint of the website to take the customer's (or future customer's) temperature, ask about future intent, and make improvements to the customer experience that will influence behavior, not just perceptions. The American Customer Satisfaction Index methodology is an established, scientific metric that models and quantifies how customer satisfaction drives purchase of goods and services, which helps companies make better investment decisions. Companies can look at the satisfaction and purchase intent metrics by media source (i.e. which online media delivered the clickthrough to the website, or by self-reported media behavior --"I saw this ad in Forbes") to determine which are doing a better job delivering intangible, as well as tangible benefits, which is a more complete and accurate assessment of the media value.

  22. Erik Schutzman from IMPAQT
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 10:20 AM
    I also disagree. Although branding is not measurable it is an essential part of the marketing toolkit. There is no panacea for marketing success. Data and measurements are essential, but so is the psychological part of consumer perceptions. There is also an issue semantics involved here. There are "brands" and "brand identity", they are two separate thoughts. The "brand" is the asset and is what the consumer perceives in their mind, the "brand identity" is the visual that represents that perception, and "branding" involves both brand and brand identity. If the branding dies, the brand dies. It's as simple as that.

  23. Rob Graham from LearningCraft
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 10:17 AM
    I would add that branding as a way of raising consumer awareness will never go out of fashion. However, measuring straight branding as a way of determining campaign success is seriously flawed. I agree that branding is a transitional metric. By itself is has limited value very much in the same way that measuring online campaign click-through rates is a lousy way to measure direct response. It's only part of the equation and in order to be meaningful it has to mesh with set campaign goals.

    I've seen too many campaigns launched with no real set goal other than 'brand awareness'. If you set goals that you can't accurately measure how will you really ever know if it worked or not?

  24. Thom Dinsdale from thomcult.blogspot.com
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 10:14 AM
    I agree that accountable media is more attractive at the moment. However what you're suggesting doesn't seem to account for infrequent or one off purchases. For example, consumers may only buy a new car once every five to ten years. If you can only measure brands when consumers interact directly with them then what becomes of the space between those purchases? It is branding that can ensure an ongoing relationship with consumers whether or not they're interested in purchase at that time, even if any relationship is purely based on intangible values.

  25. chuck dorris from eDining, llc
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 10:01 AM
    I agree with your epiphanous Saturday brunch, interestingly enough, and independently at a brunch sampling of my own.

    To save reading this entire thing...my own epiphany went like this... you can do a LOT of things online to build awareness and spread the branding, but you can only do so much if the brand doesnt DELIVER, then we're all french toast.

    Seems obvious, but in the case of my own little business, to actually see is to believe. I do email marketing for a group of restaurants in an expensive, up-scale state near New York. I've designed programs that grab birthdays, anniversaries and event preferences one customer at a time, one response card at a time.

    Sunday was admittedly one of the grayest, bleakest days of the decade, financial meltdown, rain, the first frost of winter.... Four of the restaurants were on a single street, so it was possible to visit them all in a short, chilly walk.

    One, a seafood place, had decided to get active and had started their Sunday brunch that very morning after a long policy of always being closed on sundays. At 1:00PM, a solitary table of four was surrounded by the entire, expectant staff. 1500 e-mails, 50% open rate, a great menu and NOBODY showed... the staff that wasn't hovering was playing fantasy football, messaging one another to the comparatively exciting rhythms of the Giants game on the plasma screen over the bar and shivering in the cold.

    Next door, at an Italian bistro, I stopped in to see how it was going, and lo and behold, the place was jam packed, white hot and full of diners, drinkers and conversation. The owners were in their basement office correcting some errant waitperson, but I couldnt wait, simply because there wasn't a single seat in the restaurant. Discussing the world's events, the SAME plasma screen, the SAME Giants game was going completely unnoticed by the horde.

    The third and fourth restaurants were empty. One hadn't sent any emails or done any advertising for its overpriced Sushi in four months and the other aggressively and religiously emails 2500 customers every month with significant discounts and generous birthday incentives. No differ3nce, both were cold and empty.

    So, the Italian place, by word of mouth and by a steady kind of mailing program that never gives anything away, but only builds brand by sending notices for imaginative beer dinners and wine events, was seen by its customer's as fulfilling its' "Brand" promise of a good-times kind of place, to hang, party and talk to friends... oh and to eat... which was apparently the needed thing on a bleak Sunday morning after an epic financial meltdown.

  26. Kate Elzer-Peters from Queensboro Shirt Company
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:51 AM
    I would offer the opposite: Traditional marketing is dead but branding is not.

    People still need to identify on an emotional or gut level with products and services in order to consistently return to, purchase or engage with the same companies. With so many choices available and more choices added every day, people need to be almost neurologically hard wired to stick with a certain product.

    Yes, I think traditional forms of advertising are going to change and possibly bite the dust. Queensboro does not engage in much of what I would consider "Traditional Advertising," and has not for years. We do have a solid brand that is recognizable to our highly loyal customers, and differentiates us from our competitors in terms of new customer acquisition and retention. That is the point of marketing--not file counts or recognition in surveys. You don't want just recognition. You want customers that keep coming back over and over again. The brand does not need to be just recognizable, but it needs to stand for something that is religiously backed up by the company's output and service.

    I think that social media is making brand awareness more important, not less. The brand needs to extend beyond just a logo and be more than a status symbol. The brand needs to be a comprehensive (two-way) communication and execution of a valuable product or service. Queensboro does logos, and we do them well, but we recognize why our customers need logos on shirts, hats, bags and other customizable products, and we offer those products and services to help them build their business brand style and recognition. That is our brand.

  27. Darin Ingalls from James Tower
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:48 AM
    Woah Woah Woah...I could not disagree more in that building brand is and should be inherent in any marketing you do. So that being the case how can it really die? I would agree that focusing strictly on brand building is really a traditional media approach. So in that sense maybe it is becoming less of a focus. But its not dying its evolving. With online media the metrics and accountability allow you to have your cake and eat it too! I personally think Social Media is a perfect example of how building brand is the latent effect off positive customer engagement. And as Brian says if we only begin to value those things which we can measure as being valuable we have been fully assimilated... resistance is futile.

  28. Richard Paris from Dunhill Vacation News
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:41 AM
    More dim sum on Saturday. Branding is just a transitional part of the sales process, not an end in itself. This was a great thoughtful article, blarring with insight.

  29. John Morton from johnfmorton.com, LLC
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:39 AM
    I recently had a meeting with an online coupon vendor. They mentioned in passing that their business, which can track printing and redemption of their coupons on an per interaction basis, is booming right now. Advertisers having a spreadsheet to show their higher ups within their company that they've spent money wisely is obviously valuable. These advertising decisions are driven by people who are trying to protect their jobs so they'll be more likely to spend money that gives them cover.

  30. Karin Oliver-Kreft from Young Isaac
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:38 AM
    Your argument is based on the assumption that brand marketing only builds brand awareness and never is designed to actually change behavior with measurable results.

    "Brand marketing" has long been used as a scapegoat for any marketing that doesn't actually impact sales figures. It's unfortunate that so many agencies use the excuse, "Well, it didn't bring in any customers, but your awareness levels are up." It's not just awareness that's the issue, it's also preference. That's what branding is supposed to be: awareness AND preference. True branding not only changes people's impression of a brand, but ALSO spurs the desired action from the target audience.

    Ads without specific product offers (e.g., come in now and save $X) can and should boost sales. Similarly, offer-specific drivers should be brand-building. The two are not mutually exclusive. It's time to embrace this so that marketing serves its chief goal: increasing sales, both immediately and for the long haul.

  31. Ron Stitt from Fox Television Stations/MyNetworkTV
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:34 AM
    This may all be semantics, because I wouldn't argue that response metrics shouldn't be a key component of media evaluations as much as possible. But brands are assets...a high end Mercedes doesn't cost twice as much as a high end Cadillac because objectively it's twice the car. Before response media stimulate sales, they better also establish a value proposition to the consumer to justify a price that can sustain margins, or you can sell your way into oblivion (a promotions marketing expert made this point to me pre-internet - he said "it's easy to stimulate volume, just do a two for one...or lower the price). Brands are assets, with quantifiable value...if I owned such an asset, I'd be pretty concerned about the idea that "brand building is dead". This kind of perspective can create a race to the bottom if we're not careful.

  32. Brian Carter from Fuel Interactive
    commented on: October 08, 2008 at 9:30 AM
    Disagree. As much experience as I have with tactical marketing and highly accountable metrics-based advertising, and as much as I favor that approach, markets have demonstrated that brands have value apart from any short term advertising efforts. Third party valuations of companies also have taken into account the value of the brand separate from the company itself... brand value may be difficult to quantify, but it's a strong potentiator. Just because we have trouble measuring it does not mean it's not valuable.

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