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Are We Using Two-way Mirrors?
by Seana Mulcahy, Monday, November 6, 2006, 12:45 PM

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Last Wednesday two consumer groups filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. The groups want the FTC to investigate "invasive and deceptive" online advertising practices. This includes user tracking, Web analytics and behavioral targeting. They claim that users don't know we are tracking them.

What do you think? I did a quick poll of friends and family outside the industry. No one knew they were being tracked. When I told them what we use and how we use it, their initial reaction was that it was "cool." However, after a moment of thinking about it, they all asked if I could track them. This was a tough question to answer.

Quite frankly, I'm surprised the complaint, made by the Center for Digital Democracy and the U.S. Public Interest Research Group, hasn't gotten much traction yet. Although I tend to cringe when these things come out, the issue needs to be talked about.

Is it so bad that these groups are asking for more stringent privacy policies? Well I certainly don't think it is out of the question--especially with identity theft on the rise.

According to FTC findings, identity theft complaints represented 37% of the 686,683 complaints filed last year--and Internet-related complaints accounted for 46% of all fraud complaints.

So back to the complaint. The bottom line, according to these groups, is that users do not know that they are being tracked, how they are being tracked, and what information regarding their Web surfing habits is out there. It's ironic; clients always want to know what we can track. They'd like to know anything and everything about their target audience, customers and prospects, whereas (most) users don't want to be tracked at all. Meanwhile, we want to track, report and optimize traffic as well as unique users.

These groups say tracking and analytics companies fail to disclose what type of personal data they are collecting.

Jeff Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, noted in a statement, "The FTC should long ago have sounded a very public alarm--and called for action--concerning the data collection practices stemming from such fields as Web analytics, online advertising networks, behavioral targeting, and rich 'virtual reality' media, all of which threaten the privacy of the U.S. public."

Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA), the senior member of the House Telecommunications and Internet Subcommittee and co-chair of the Bipartisan Privacy Caucus, likewise commended the consumer groups, noting that "The surreptitious gathering of personal information from consumers is an unfair business practice and consumers are right to petition the Commission to examine and investigate such practices. Where and when a consumer surfs on the Internet goes to the heart of personal freedom and I have long advocated for common-sense rules to be put in place so that consumers have knowledge about these practices and effective mechanisms to control the privacy of their personal information and Web use."

So the big question is, do you support the investigation into these practices or not? If so, why? Are these groups taking it too far? If so, how can we offer a better solution? Post your rants and raves on the Spin blog--two-way mirrored or not!

7 comments on "Are We Using Two-way Mirrors?"

  1. Barbara Mealer from Kids and Things Webstore
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 8:20 PM
    To track someone, you really need to have their permission. When they give that it should disclose what information is being gathered. There should never be any personal tracking without your knowledge. Tracking of numbers without identification of person is ok...ie number of searches for "blog" per day or month verses what websites I visited today or for the past month. Maybe the clients need to be a little less concerned about unique users and really work more on the general user and increasing their use and traffic. I do know that I would not want any personal information tracked by anyone!!

  2. William Jaroske from Dumbexperts.com
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 8:04 PM
    Quite frankly. Not enough action is taken even if you did provide proof of misrepresentation and false advertising. Does the FTC enforce the discloser laws or is it casual window dressing? On a consumer standpoint. People dislike tracking cookies for whatever reason.

  3. Mike Wacht from Global-5, Inc.
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 5:01 PM
    I don't think this tracking concept is that new. Call me naive, but I didn't know for the longest time that my grocery store was tracking my purchases each time I used their discount card. My store didn't disclose this to me, I saw a report on TV news about it. I know my credit card company tracks my purchases under the rationale that it's protecting my credit card by identifying unusual purchases. I still don't know the extent of what either of those organizations were/are tracking, storing and telling folks about me, but I have the option of opting out of both of those systems (by ditching my "discount" card, changing stores, and buying with cash).

    With the Internet, I believe it's different. It's not purely a retail environment, so it's much harder to just opt out of it. I don't mind that Amazon or ebay track me (since I did register with them), because they offer me a more customized shopping experience. But I don't expect the same thing from social networking, news, spirituality and other sites I visit.

    I support the investigation as a consumer protection. Government is supposed to operate in the open (and you can request any and all records any government agency collects on your surfing habits under FOI), and I think business should offer us the same protections. As with any other tracking, we should have the ability to opt out if we don't want to be tracked, without having to give up our social networks, various news sources and other tools that enrich our lives beyond buying and selling.

  4. Seana Mulcahy from Brand Truth
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 4:42 PM
    William I pretty much agree with you on this one. It is tough. But look at grocery stores. Most people tote around an affinity card with all their personal information. That gets scanned in every time they shop. Data can show what you eat to what type of deodorant you use. Seana

  5. Patrick Goff from HotelDesigns
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 4:27 PM
    I have always listened to my users. One said, very early on, "I don't want people to kknow hwere I go in your site. I want to be able to window shop undisturbed by a sales person" So I don't track individual visitors. I also believe that inthe UK at least the Data Protection Act could make such tracking an illegal invasion of privacy. I believe that this has helped my relationship with my 30,000+ repeat users and to build reader lyalty.

  6. William Mecke from Georgia Regional Transportation Authority
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 3:06 PM
    I'm two-hearted on this issue. As a marketer I want to know everything I can. As a consumer I'm not willing to give up anything without more compensation than I'm currently receiving.

    PIRG and the Center for Digital Democracy aren't off base. People should know exactly what information is being collected, how it is being used, and how they are being identified - especially if they're not being asked to fill out the information in some kind of a form. It's one thing if I willingly tell you I'm a white male, 35-54, etc. It's another if you capture my address and aggregate information about my behavior coming to, while on, and leaving your site - or even more than that. It's also another thing if I have to go to the teeny-tiny print buried deep in a website to find out what it is you are collecting and don't have a way to opt out of that collection other than not visiting your site.

    My consumer heart holds out hope of a micro-payment system that compensates me for spending time on your site when you are collecting data about me - and for macro payments if you sell that information to others. My marketer's heart shudders at both thoughts even though I'm not collecting much data through my site right now and wouldn't dream of selling what I do collect to anyone else - even if I could.

    If I had to decide, I'd err toward the consumer side. Long before there was an Internet or the kind of data collection we are ccapable of today successful brands were created, products marketed, and profits made.

  7. Sunil Shibad from The Flea
    commented on: November 06, 2006 at 3:01 PM
    Seana,

    Don't you know Google is God and all-knowing and all-seeing and does no evil? So what can the the FTC do?

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SEANA MULCAHY
  • Mulcahy is currently a media director at Sapient Interactive, a position to which she brings more than 18 years of experience in advertising, public relations and marketing communications, with a primary focus on the digital space. Prior to Sapient, Mulcahy founded Brand Truth, a digital media and marketing consultancy.


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