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DPAA's Barry Frey: Why Video - And Authenticity - Are Everywhere

It’s been nearly a year since I started championing that in an increasingly AI-generated synthetic world, the next big ad industry KPI will be authenticity. And I’m happy to see the concept is gaining traction. In fact, when I spoke with DPAA President-CEO Barry Frey ahead of its big annual summit in New York City this week, he said that was one of the big themes of this year’s event.

Actually, first he nudged me once again about why MediaPost keeps paranthetically referring to it as the Digital Place-Based Advertising Association, and when I explained it was our editorial style to spell out company acronyms on first reference, he rebutted, “Would you spell out AT&T as American Telephone & Telegraph?” Touche. So let me begin by asking you readers if the DPAA has sufficiently branded itself as an acronym that MediaPost can discontinue the spell-out? Feel free to answer with a comment below or email joe@mediapost.com. The power is in your hands.

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Back to the DPAA – as well as its summit’s “Video Everywhere” branding – I asked Frey to being by explaining this year’s positioning and how it is different from its past.

Barry Frey: We’ve evolved. We’re not [the Digital Place-Based Advertising Association] anymore. We are now the digital out-of-home trade association or we’re the trade marketing group that promotes innovation, digitization and growth of the medium.

The reason for the name ‘Video Everywhere” is because video is the most powerful medium for consumers and brands and video is outside the home, prolifically.

Our theme is “real connections” and what that refers to is that we make real connections and the power of real connections in real life is huge today, especially when 50% of the content on the web is created by bots. People don’t know what’s real. What not real.

What we do know is that when you’re in the street or in a physical place and there’s a one-to-many medium there in public, you have to tell the truth or you’d have people throwing tomatoes at it.

When you’re a young kid in a basement watching videogames or something else, he could serve up anything in an echo chamber. It happens. In other one-to-one scenarios there’s a lot going on, but when you’re in public in a one-to-many medium, you’ve got to do the right thing. You’ve got to tell the truth. And that’s the power of real connections in the real world.

It’s all about the power – in this day and age when we’re not sure with AI what’s real, what’s fake news, what’s real news – we know that real connections are made with people with brands with advertisers in the real world.

P&BI: “But your members also are advancing new forms of digital technology – virtual reality, augmented reality, mixed reality – and I assume they’re all at least thinking about using agentic media buying and planning systems. How do you reconcile a shift to an agentic world while you’re selling people on the real world?

Frey: Well, DPAA helped steward the adoption of programmatic in the out-of-home world. And in the beginning people would say, “Barry, it’s a race to the bottom. We can’t control our inventory.” And my own experience coming from digtial, coming from TV and building media businesses and seeing the propensity of programmatic in digital, I said we have to go there. So the same thing is going to happen with agentic. We’re going to do it smart. We’re going to lead the way.

We’ve never been about the analog looking back. There’s a great quote that Martin Sorrell has, which is, “I prefer to work with people that are looking at the sky than staring at their boots. And that’s what DPAA is about.

P&BI: Is there anything else that defines how what the DPAA is doing differently this year than what you’ve done in the past?

Frey: Well, the fact that we’re doubling down on authenticity.

But also that everybody is always clamoring for perfect measurement. Everybody always wants everything to fit into neatly into little boxes. The reality is that perfect measurement doesn’t exist. Think about the company that takes the most amount of independent media money for research in the world, Nielsen. When Nielsen delivers those numbers, what does it call them?

P&BI: Estimates?

Frey: Right. It’s all estimates. None of this is census, true fact data. What we do is measure outcomes. And at the end-of-the-day, what does a brand want? Do they want to accumulate rating points? Do they want to accumulate impressions? Or do they want to know that their brand lift moved to the top of the funnel or that their products sold at the bottom of the funnel? And that’s what out-of-home is proving today. We are proving outcomes. The medium delivers.

4 comments about "DPAA's Barry Frey: Why Video - And Authenticity - Are Everywhere".
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  1. Hanna Gryncwajg from Hanna G, October 14, 2026 at 4:53 p.m.

    Yes Joe, DPAA, is absolutely known by buyers and sellers in the space, second to that would be native to digital. As for TV, likely executives do, beyond that, IDK. 

  2. Cliff Marks from CMarksco, LLC, October 14, 2026 at 8:34 p.m.

    Joe, it's 2026.... of course, DPAA is a well established organization run by a very talented guy in Barry!   It's time!!!   Hope all's well buddy.

  3. Marcelo Salup from Iffective LLC, October 15, 2026 at 5:15 a.m.

    Barry is a class act and the DPAA is 1,000% lucky to have gotten him.

    Authenticity is red-herring. Relevance is key and relevance leads you inevitably to segmentation. You can be as authentic as you'd like, if you're not relevant to me, I'm not buying it. 

    The best example is Tampax. I'm sure Tampax is as authentic as they come; it's truly an icon among tampons. I don't use them. They are not relevant. So, I'll never buy them, authentico or not.

  4. Dan C. from MS Entertainment, October 15, 2026 at 7:45 a.m.

    Frey’s argument that out-of-home advertising is inherently more authentic because it’s displayed publicly is a massive leap in logic. Public visibility doesn’t guarantee truthfulness, accountability, or authenticity. AI-generated images and misleading claims can appear on a giant billboard or OOH display just as easily as on a smartphone. I'm not following (or agreeing) that reaching thousands of people simultaneously in public makes a message any more truthful. 


    The interview also gets off to a contradictory start where Frey criticizes Mandese for spelling out DPAA, then immediately says, “We’re not that anymore,” before describing the organization as a digital out-of-home trade association or a trade marketing group. He seems to demand recognition for a brand identity he struggles to articulate himself. And AT&T is a 141 year old brand, but his own organization has already had a name change back in 2010. Comparing the two is nonsensical.


    More fundamentally, he repeatedly invokes AI, authenticity, measurement, and automated media buying without explaining how they connect. If authenticity is the industry’s next big KPI, how does DPAA define it, identify it, or measure it? What technology or methodology distinguishes authentic content from synthetic or deceptive content? For all the talk about authenticity, the interview never answers the most fundamental question, "What, precisely, makes out-of-home advertising authentic—and how do you prove it?"


    I've never bought or sold OOH and while I appreciate it as a medium, Frey just seemed to use a lot of industry buzzwords without crystalizing how they intend to prove out authenticity.


    On a final note, authenticity is subjective. What feels genuine to one person may feel completely contrived to another. You can observe people's reactions to something they perceive as authentic, but that doesn't establish an objective measure of authenticity itself. It's like trying to measure how much someone loves you. You can observe their words and actions, but those don't quantify the feeling itself.

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